This whole post was to answer a theoretical question. Not to have your "turbo ethics" speil. As enlightened as i feel now after reading your plethora of educational words... *eye roll* I didnt come here to argue semantics. I asked a simple question... (which had 3 simple answers already laid out). Hypothetical question to prove to a friend that his hypothetical result was wrong. Deviating from the simplicity was the wrong way to go. tks bye